Specialist Questions - Spirits, Essential Oils, Vinegar

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June 2018:

It has now been an unbelievable 16 years (!) since the last major change to the website and forums. When you think that two to three years are an eternity for the Internet sector, that is really something. In any case, there has been so much going on in terms of technology that it has become urgently necessary to completely redesign not only the forums, but also the entire website, from scratch and bring the programming up to date. Naturally, along with this we also introduced various new features; for example it was high time we allowed pictures to be uploaded with a forum post too or enabled users to subscribe to the forums via RSS feeds. And of course we have subsequently included pictures that are saved on external websites and were then integrated here using an img tag, so that no valuable information is lost. In any case, we hope you continue to have fun swapping experiences and trying things out.

Juni 2002:

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  • Question 8

    Alex | SEATTLE, 04.04.2021 21:54:16

    Hello, I have your book and the ebooks, I am a home cook putting my ingredients in Mason jar. I want to make an intense orange vinegar using blood orange, or perhaps mandarins. I don't think infusing the oranges in the vinegar for two weeks will give me the intense flavor I want. Is it possible to put the oranges in the jar at the beginning of the fermentation process?


    I do not have a white wine mother. So I thought I would combine in a large jar 1)a warmed, live, nonfiltered white Vinegar 2)a bottle of white wine adjusted for sulfites/ABV and 3) the peels of the oranges. I would check in about 3 to 4 weeks. Is this a good plan? How long could this all sit in the jar to get the best flavor? Or should I remove the mother at first sign of vinegar and let the peels/vinegar sit on their own before bottling? What do you think?

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  • Question 16

    Azar  | sweden, 11.02.2021 09:24:45

    1. Do you have a fermentation container?

    2. Can I infuse anis with 12 percent dry white wine?

    3. How do you make clear Arak when you are infusing the anis? Will, it not turn to another color during the infusion?

    Reply

    ad 1: Yes, but only for our own use. You can take an oval bucket right (available at hardware stores), drill a hole in the lid to plug in the fermentation lock.


    ad 2: Infusion: No, too less percent, better use 43 % at least high-quality Spirit: yes, the percentage shouldn't be higher.


    ad 3: yes, this is true, for this reason the infusion should be distilled, or rather make a spirit, this results in a better quality. As already said with tasteless 12 % alc. put the anis in the steamer basket.

  • Question 15

    Ben | VAE, 10.02.2021 10:07:49

    We are interested in your products, especially the CLASSIC Still essential oil destillator , but it would also be important if the equipment could also distill water. Is that also possible with this equipment? 

    Reply
    Yes, of course it's possible to distill water with the LEONARDO® CLASSIC. After all, intentionally it's purpose is to bring water to a boil and thereafter condensate the formed steam. This is in fact the principle of a steam distillation if you fill the steam space with plant material.


  • Question 7

    Huda | Saudi Arabia , 18.01.2021 10:29:10

    Thanks for giving a chance to question

    Is cutting apples in small pieces and submerging them in water, stirring every day, to prevent mold?

    Is the stirring limited to the alcoholic fermentation period, approximately two weeks, only?

    How much sugar should I add? And how much the appropriate BRICS scale

    Reply

    ad 1) no, this is to guarantee that the yeast also decomposes the solid parts which are floating on the top of the mash.
    ad 2) yes, stir only while it's fermenting. The alcoholic fermentation time depends on the available amount of sugar. Yes, if you don't add sugar, the fermentation will be finished after a few weeks, depending on the ambient temperature. On the other hand, if preparing a high-grade mash (thus, using the proper yeast and adding sugar), alcoholic fermentation takes about 8 weeks.

    ad 3) The maximal amount of sugar you can add depends on the type of yeast, or rather the alcohol tolerance of the yeast you have added. The supplier of your yeast should know this value. This topic is explained thoroughly in our books "The Artisanal Vinegar Marker’s Handbook" or "The Artisan’s Guide to Crafting Distilled Spirits".

  • Question 14

    Emerita | Venezuela, 12.12.2020 01:16:07


    Hello how are you, a question: geranium was distilled and the color of the essential oil was green and it remained that color for several days, then the bottle was opened and it turned red. Why did this color change occur? Maintains

    the properties of essential oil? It can be used? Thank you very much in advance for the responses and your time. Saludos cordiales



    Reply

    Of course, oxidation due to air contact could be a reason. Although, neither I've ever recognized an effect like this, nor I did find a description in literature or the like. We received green geranium oil already, but it didn't turn pink after a while. Having said that, there are so many different varieties of scent geranium out there, that I do not wonder if the oils differ not only in smell, but also in color.

    Just to be sure: it could not be the case that the content formed foam while cooking and the color is in fact an impurity caused by this foam?

  • Question 15

    Glen | New Zealand, 16.11.2020 01:08:31

    Hi

    What can I use the top of the distillation (higher alcohol ) for after taking it off..Im using the middle for a smoother finish..can the top still be drunk ?

    Cheers

    Glen

    Reply

    Since the heads (I suppose you mention this fraction) contain poisonous components, you can't drink it. Even don't use it in the course of your next distillation. This fraction can only used externally, to clean windows or the like.

  • Question 13

    Emerita | Venezuela, 13.09.2020 15:28:40
    Hello, how are you, could you clarify the following doubts:
    1) Once the hydrolate has been packaged for later use: is it kept refrigerated or is it kept at room temperature?
    2) Chlorine in drinking or tap water: does it affect the quality of the hydrolate?
    3) The distillation of a non-aromatic plant (without essential oil) is also called a hydrolate?
    4) Could you tell me the percentage of essential oil that you recommend for soaps and shampoo?


    Beforehand thank you very much.

    Saludos cordiales

    Reply

    ad 1) At room temperature if there was an oil layer on the top. In this case the hydrosol is durable, even if the oil layer has been removed.
    ad 2) Yes, since this is distillable, you can smell it in the distillate. Thus, take chlorine free tab water or groundwater instead. Note: all dissolved minerals, salts, and lime do not evaporate, thus you will end up with purified distilled water, even if the water was not drinkable before distillation. Any microorganisms are no problem for the same reason.
    ad 3) Yes, if you use water. In case of alcohol it's an alcoholic spirit.

    ad 4) These values you can find in our book "The Essential Oil Maker’s Handbook"

  • Question 12

    Emerita | Venezuela, 18.08.2020 07:13:59

    Hello, to store hydrolats, can you use transparent plastic containers?

    I also want to clarify that in question 11, I wanted to say that by reading the part of the forum, especially specialized questions, knowledge is acquired about the essential oil distillation process. Thank you.




    Reply

    No, since essential oils are able to dissolve certain types of plastic. Hydrosols still contain a certain concentration of essential oils.


    knowledge is acquired about the essential oil distillation process


    Yes, you're absolutely right!

  • Question 14

    Jos | Brasil, 14.08.2020 13:51:22

    How can i bring the distil to 96% instead of 92%?

    Reply
    since 96 %vol is the azeotrope of ethanol and water, it’s very difficult, not to say impossible, to reach 96 %vol with the gear of home distillers. If you distill under vacuum conditions, it’s even worse.
  • Question 13

    Leon | United States, 13.08.2020 05:40:30

    I need 150 proof grain alcohol to wash my vape coils. How much 190 proof alcohol do I need to mix with 1 litre of 80 proof to come as close as possible to the desired 150 proof required?

    Reply
    First convert the unit US proof into %vol (ABV, alcohol by volume):
    190 US proof = 95 %vol (ABV)
    150 US proof = 75 %vol (ABV)
    80 US proof = 40 %vol (ABV)

    Now use our calculator "Mixing", I have done this for you, the link with your values is:
    https://www.distilling-spirits.com/tools/calculations/mixing-alcohol/?alc_c_low=40&alc_c_high=95&alc_c_soll=75&alc_v_low=1.00#result

    Result:
    1.00 liters with 40.00 %vol
    mixed with
    1.75 liters with 95.00 %vol
    produce
    2.75 liters with 75.00 %vol


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