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Full Boil vs not

Dave am 25.11.2020 14:19:57 | Region: Barrie

Hi all, newbie here... so I’m not a fan of my vodka. I keep reading about keeping boiler temp around 175-205 for as long as I can. I also keep reading to boil liquid In Boiler. Which method should I do?

I have a 50 litre boiler with a 3”wide x 24” tall column full with copper scrubbers , 2 flute columns with 2x bubble plates, and the condenser head on top. Do a 5 gallon all wheat mash with an abv of 9. Use turbo carbon in fermenter ,use distilamx yeast for about 2 weeks till fermentation is done, and clear with turbo clear. Filter mash through cheese cloth before entering kettle. I add 1 cap of anti foam and have ceramic boil enhancers in the bottom. I do 1 stripping run and 2 spirit runs. On the spirit run the top temperature around 160 to 170 deg. Bottom kettle temp I keep stable between 174-205 roughly And usually achieve 85-93 abv in hearts. So back to my title question, do I actually boil the entire liquid or am I doing it right? I don’t like the taste or smell of my vodka, it’s pretty sweet with almost a yeast or molasses smell. Help please

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RE: Full Boil vs not

Schmickl am 03.12.2020 10:35:22 | Region: Carinthia
Yes, this sweetish yeast taste / smell is a common problem. So far we've found out, it's caused by the type of yeast, the manufacturer of the yeast, and the length of time the mash has been stored after fermentation has finished. The best results you'll get with "8 kg Turbo Yeast", brand "Prestige", fermented up to about 18 - 20 %ABV, and stored for at least 6 months after the finished fermentation. The distillate has no off-taste, can be used immediately, no need for further storage. According to others, "Sherry yeast" or "Port yeast" can also be used, in both cases the maximum achievable alcohol content is about 16 %ABV, which is also high enough to be protective.
Since your mash contains only about 9 %ABV, you can't store the mash, it will spoil if storing for longer than about two or three weeks in a cool environment.

What can you do now? Maybe (not for sure!) it helps, if you add activated carbon to the distillate, store for a few days, stir now and then, filter afterwards and distill it again. The activated carbon normally holds back the taste. In any case you should store the distillate for a while, minimum one year. Maybe it helps also if storing the distillate you have already received without any further treatment. But in this case you have to be patient before you know if this helps or not.

Good luck!

BTW: if performing a reflux-distillation as you do, you should never forget to adjust the "reflux-ratio". This is the ratio of the number of drops flowing back into the column and the number of drops led to the receiver.

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